@mootParadox @devnull I grew up through the bolting debates in the UK, and there was very quickly a hard line driven between limestone and other types of rock. Retrobolting was seen as a plague, and chopping was common. It all got a bit silly, but the enduring refusal to place bolts on gritstone has been correct, I think.Top anchors are different, and I think there are arguments for their use even at lower grade venues like windgather, but I doubt we'll be seeing it any time soon.
